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maelorin ([personal profile] maelorin) wrote2006-12-21 07:13 pm

Georgia school district to remove evolution disclaimer stickers from textbooks

Wednesday, December 20, 2006
Kate Heneroty at 10:50 AM ET

[JURIST] The Cobb County School District [official website] on Tuesday agreed to remove anti-evolution stickers [ACLU press release] from its high school biology textbooks. In 2002, parents sued the suburban Atlanta school district claiming the stickers violated the separation between church and state by promoting religion in the classroom. In January 2005, a federal district court ordered the removal of the stickers [text; JURIST report]. The school board appealed the decision and in May the US Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit remanded the case [JURIST reports] to the district court on the issue of whether the school district's actions were "religiously neutral."

The settlement ends the legal battle which began when the district placed a sticker in 35,000 biology textbooks calling evolution "a theory, not a fact." To settle the case, the school district also agreed not to take any action which would undermine the teaching of evolution in high school classrooms.

The Atlanta Journal Constitution has more.

[identity profile] obsoletechild.livejournal.com 2006-12-21 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
HALLELUJAH!!!

Thank GOD they did that. What a stupid, ignorant thing to put on a SCIENCE book anyway. Everything in a science textbook is a theory to some extent or another. It only contains hypotheses of varying certainty that haven't yet been disproven.

I don't see them putting disclaimers on the Bible:

The text contained herein has not been conclusively verified or disproven. As with all historical counts recorded by human beings, it may be subject to transcription error or colored by the beliefs or feelings of the author. The facts alleged in the Bible are nothing more than one recordation of a period in time, and are unverifiable in their ancient nature.

[identity profile] verdigriis.livejournal.com 2006-12-21 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yay! Dance on their jelly!

You know, I just read the so called "wedge document" regarding the plan for ID, and it makes me absolutely furious. These people (ID proponents) have a concerted plan to impose their ideology on everyone else, and bugger the consequences. Although, I must admit, the so called descent of mankind into immoral chaos because of "materialistic world views" is kind of funny. Because modern civilisation is so aweful compared to the good old days...

truthiness

[identity profile] thork.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Colbert would agree with your hypothesis

[identity profile] verdigriis.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
I'm beginning to suspect that ID proponents believe in Creationism, but not their own pseudo-science. I spent way too long last night reading expert testimony against ID on the ACLU site, and I'm beginning to suspect that there is nothing at all sincere about the presentation of "evidence" supporting ID.

I shouldn't be surprised I know, but I think I had assumed they were all just willfully ignorant. Having now seen how elaborate and technical some of their arguments are, I don't see how they could generate them without realising that they were distorting science and sometimes outright lying about it.

[identity profile] verdigriis.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's always been pretty obvious that it was creationism re-branded. What kind of surprised me (but should have, really) was that not even the proponents of ID seem to believe their fake science.

They obviously believe that their god created the world, but I'm beginning to suspect that the "science" of ID exists solely for bamboozling the ignorant, and that they don't give a damn about the details of it.

[identity profile] obsoletechild.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Wish I could see that disclaimer.

Linky no worky.

[identity profile] obsoletechild.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know if I'd join your conclusion there.

I had a very intelligent professor in college who taught evolutionary science and was also a Quaker from the northwestern US.

It was his sincere belief that evolution existed and that evolution was God's plan. Note that this was not what he taught - he taught only the scientific theory of evolution - but this was his personal belief shared with the class when asking the class to share their own beliefs (in an attempt to determine what our starting ground was on evolution, as I went to school in the deep southern US).

I think that his approach may be the one way to reconcile faith with reason for those torn between the two. In any event, it is certainly more open minded, thoughtful and nuanced than either the atheist camp (no way is there a god) or the fundamentalist camp (god will damn all you atheists to hell).

Personally, I think at best I am agnostic about both scientific principals and the existence of god. I have observed the fallibility of human reason and emotion, the limitations of knowledege and the variance of 'truth' when seen from different perspectives.

What I best know is that really I don't know anything at all. I only hope to understand a few things along the way.

[identity profile] arsenchik.livejournal.com 2006-12-31 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. It's a theory, just like Euclidean geometry and Einstein's theory of relativity. What matters is the all of them are the best at modelling the physical reality when properly applied. But you don't see them trying to put disclaimers in geometry or physics books (though I think in America they don't do physics as a separate subject in high school). I suspect, though, that if they are successful in challenging evolution, they will then set their sights on physics, astronomy, etc.

Already, Grand Canyon park rangers are not allowed to state how old the canyon is according to modern geology.

The thing is, people completely ignorant of science are tryng their hand in setting science curriculum.