You can't live long enough to make them all yourself. ranty, rant, fucking rant, rant. : comments.
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dear god, surely i can think for myself on this one?
- australia is a secular country, not a theocracy,
- people are appointed to do the job themselves, not to look elsewhere for 'guidance',
- it is the trend to appoint fundamentalists to influential positions that is most concerning
being guided by values is different to being guided by religion. the latter might open the door to influence from the leadership of that religion. the hillsong mob and opus dei, for example, do make their views known and do "encourage" compliance. fundamentalist sects exert a huge influence over members to conform to the "group mind".the values, and the way they are derived and promulgated, of fundamentalist sects often run contrary to those of the rest of society. that is one way the group separates itself and creates it's identity. that and dogmatic insistence on being "the truth" ...
dan brown writes pretty average books, but he has hooked into a larger feeling of unease about the objectives of fundamentalists. particularly those who adhere to beliefs that directly confront or challenge secular society. whilst most people do not have a clear knowledge or understanding of history, they do have a deep unease about dogmatic beliefs and dictatorial culture.
we've been there before and it wasn't pretty.
Re: dear god, surely i can think for myself on this one?
2. While it wasn't the best thing for him to say at all. I'll reserve judgement until I see what kind of job he does.
3. I wouldn't exactly call Anglicans Fundamentalists, but I'm sure there are actual Fundamentalists in influential positions.
You can divide Christians into about 4 solid groups:
1. Fundamentalist - ie. Pentecostal/Hillsong etc.
2. Traditionalist - Catholic, Anglican
3. Modern - Uniting, Churches of Christ
4. Fucked in the Head - Mormon, Jehovas Witness etc. In case you hadn't noticed, Fucked in the Head's are also extremely Fundamentalist but then change the rules even more for their own benefit.
Keep this in mind before you go implying that a Christian is a fundamentalist. Yes, he fucked up with what he said most from the churches perspective as if he fucks it up for the rest of us they'll get the blame, not him. If he uses Christian morals as a basis then he may do okay, although even these could mean that we all have less and, as he himself stated he'll still have more.
Basically I wasn't arguing your point. Just saying taht you shouldn't judge him just because he's a Christian. Wait and see what he does before you start throwing too much shit around.
Re: dear god, surely i can think for myself on this one?
i'm all too well aware of the complexity of the christian collection.
fundamentalism has several distinct meanings, certainly different usages"i'm not intending to disparage the man, i'm concerned about the impression his statements have made about him, and how he intends to go about this important job.
but more importantly, i'm concerned about the growing trend of the increasing profile of individuals with strong religious views - not because they have strong views, but because ther eis the appearance of a pattern. the appearance of a thing is (very often) far more powerful in politics than the thing itself.
Re: dear god, surely i can think for myself on this one?
Josef Goebbels thought that Adolf H was divinely ordained.
The creeps who blew themselves up in Bali and in London proclaimed that they were carrying out Jehovah's (or YHWH's or Allah's) will.
The dip-shits who claim that AIDS is God's justice upon an sinful world (mainly upon a queer sinful world of course) regard the supply of condoms and the use of retrovirals as against God's will (and of course they would know).
It reminds me of a recent commentary after Nietzsche - "God is not dead - He's just busy creating something much less ambitious". A good Jesus Follower friend (a Uniting Church MOW, no less) tells me that God has never said "Whoops!" - I find that hard to believe at times, for example after hearing one of Fred Nile's fulminations or after reading another of Eine Kleine Johnny's lawyer-speak platitudes or after listening to Tony Abbott, that fine example of a former seminarian.
mary